In 1938, you were expatriated.
Came it as a surprise to you
that the man who was still young
and whose surname at birth had been Frahm
and now called himself Brandt, was expatriated?
Was that not proof that the Gestapo had very closely observed you
and that they had registered precisely what you did in exile?
I was actually surprised that they knew so little.
Today the documents are accessible.
The documents for the expatriation process,
which the Gestapo in Kiel had wrote down,
were greatly inferior to what the headquarters in Berlin knew.
And what the German embassy or mission in Oslo contributed
was rather trivial.
So, first of all, I wondered
why the expatriation process was taking so long.
I was surprised as how effective it was,
over the years,
to have operated under two names.
The first one was the name I was born with,
the second one was the name I used in exile.